Korra Book 2 (ALREADY!)

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Suicide wrote:I dunno it ruins a character at his very core for the sake of forced drama. It sounds like Civil War... You also already had (and still have) this same drama with Asami and her father. I like the idea of her having to go up against a former ally but it doesn't fit for Tenzin. He's a Buddhist. He wouldn't hire an assassin. EVER. If she had to deal with a more bitter Asami that'd be something more believable.

But regardless we'll just have to wait and see the fun unfold in the new seasons to come! I have every confidence in the team to produce something amazing again!

Buddhist? Buddhism exists in the Avatar universe (a total fantasy world)? Sounds silly to me, it's like the Catholic Church existing in Dungeons and Dragons. An analog ok, but the actual thing? Did Gautama shoot fire out of his hands in this universe? XD
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Its an analog but yes the cultures in Avatar are based on real cultures from our world just as the bending arts have direct correlations to real forms of Martial Arts. The Airbending Monks are almost exact analogs to Buddhists though The Buddha is never mentioned.

Other examples include philosophical beliefs as Uncle Iroh from the first series was an obvious Confusion though he never directly mentioned Confusius himself.
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Suicide wrote:Its an analog but yes the cultures in Avatar are based on real cultures from our world just as the bending arts have direct correlations to real forms of Martial Arts. The Airbending Monks are almost exact analogs to Buddhists though The Buddha is never mentioned.

Other examples include philosophical beliefs as Uncle Iroh from the first series was an obvious Confusion though he never directly mentioned Confusius himself.

oh ok...so analogs of real world philosophy and religion...makes sense to me. I called it a "total fantasy world" in that it does not take place in an real country or geography on the planet. I mentioned D&D because (as much as I know of it) it's world is kind of a European medieval analog (as much of fantasy is).

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Suicide wrote:I dunno it ruins a character at his very core for the sake of forced drama. It sounds like Civil War... You also already had (and still have) this same drama with Asami and her father. I like the idea of her having to go up against a former ally but it doesn't fit for Tenzin. He's a Buddhist. He wouldn't hire an assassin. EVER. If she had to deal with a more bitter Asami that'd be something more believable.

But regardless we'll just have to wait and see the fun unfold in the new seasons to come! I have every confidence in the team to produce something amazing again!
actually it is less forced drama if we don't cause the change happen in one episode. make it have to go through two, or three, him contemplating and suffering in the background. make korra suspiciuos and asking what is wrong, hinting at a problem. have the attack episode before hand, so it will twist inside him, till he finds himself without option but to use the assassin. thus it is less forced and more led up to. instead of a heelface turn, we have him tortured with fear and anger and desperation. and then it iwll become a test of his character more than anything, as we have him eventually redeem himself, one way or another.
sometimes the greatest drama comes from those who do not act as they should, so long as it makes sense onece the cat's out of a bag. a comci character who is all goody two shoes suddenly show himself as evil, badly done. but a man who finds himself worrying for not only his family but the existence of his race, against an enemy for whom the police and government are seemingly incapable of stopping once and for all, bevcause of the rules and regulations he helped sustain, and having his daughter injured, i would be disgusted with tenzin if he didn't try to do something. however he would not seek the death of the equalists out of retribution, no he would stay in character for that. he simply seeks to save those he loves, but he will be haunted by the mayhem he sowed.......... i can almsot hear the words as i see tenzin admit his crimes to korra in a dark room, the same one where they were keeping tarrlok.

Korra- but oyu didn't kill them, tenzin!!! i know you sent him there, but that sparky guy is the one who.....
Tenzin- it is not his fault!!........ a weapon cannot kill on its own korra. it must be wielded by one of violent intent, whether good or ill. Though he is a person, though he possesses emotion, though he has shown that he has a soul as kind and gentle as any airbender, that poor boy is a living weapon. He simply did as his holder commanded, and i was who wielded him. A blade can be cleaned of blood, but the taint it leaves on the wielder lasts forever. It is my sin, and no others.
Korra- Why tenzin? Why?!
Tenzin- for the sake of everyting i hold dear. my wife, my children, my culture, and my race. Yet i have defiled my connection ot them all for what i have done. I no longer desreve to walk calmly through this temple, nor watch as my children grow big and strong, nor hold my wife in my arms........ Tell me Korra. is my father ashamed of me?
Korra- .......... we need to go tenzin. perhaps lin can do something to.....
Tenzin- i know she would, but only for me. i must repent Korra, for what i did to those people, and for what i did to my assassin by drawing back into his old world of violence.............. but i can't do so in a jail cell.
and at that moment, he draws the very air out of korra's lungs, leaving her suffocating on the floor to find his redemption, adding yet another sin to his soul.
if this took place during this spirit season, he might be seeking to go on some pilgrimage or something in an attempt to redeem himself.

it draws a contrast between him and sato, whci h would be itnentional. both are fathers who did horrible things, but theri methods and intentions are oppossite. i bet it took sato less than one meeting with amon to become his ally against all benders, allowing his hate to encompass all benders. he basically tried to destroy yhe world, and was so consumed by hatred that he could not even feel love for his daughter or wife.
tenzin, however, was the opposite of the spectrum. he had a lot more ot worry about that a single dead wife, if an extremely tragic thing. however he did not jump onto the idea of using the assassin. he mowed over it for weeks, tormenting his waking hours as he feared to hear what would happen next to his family. his morality was so strong that he did not want to betray his way of life so easily. however, the safety of hsi family and the existence of airbenders in general overcame his morals in the end, knowing that somethign had to be done before it was too late. however, unlike sato, he was in full realization of his sins and wanted repetence, however feeling that he could not do so simply sitting in a prison, knowing he would probably get a much lighter sentence than he deserved because of circumstances and his political position, he fled to go on a pilgrimage, though he added yet another sin to him by harming korra, likely both physically and psychologically.
he did something out of character yet remained in character.
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