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I seriously feel this may be the final straw:
http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/08/30 ... 1312c1941a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is such a stunt... such a car-salesman-esque routine that feels so forced and so disingenuous that I am flushing the comic side of this company down the toilet. I'll take my DC entertainment from the Animated Sect from now on. Go die in a fire DC Editorial Staff.
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this sound's just like a shitty sope opera
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Suicide wrote:I seriously feel this may be the final straw:
http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/08/30 ... 1312c1941a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is such a stunt... such a car-salesman-esque routine that feels so forced and so disingenuous that I am flushing the comic side of this company down the toilet. I'll take my DC entertainment from the Animated Sect from now on. Go die in a fire DC Editorial Staff.
Okay...

I'll agree that this is a pretty stupid and gimmicky poster, especially considering a recent pairing is number one but this oddly doesn't faze me that much; all my anger went towards Marvel's treatment of Spider-Man and MJ and the Ultimate Death of Spider-Man.

Despite the gimmick, I still want to see how this story goes along and it's ramifications. Plus, even if the pairing bombs, there's still the Snyder/Capullo Batman series and the Azzarello/Chiang Wonder Woman series, which are both pretty good comics and the reason I still pay attention to comics anymore.
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there's still... the Azzarello/Chiang Wonder Woman series
You are correct. As long as Azzarello WW is going on I won't completely stop reading DC. It's literally the last thing that I'm holding on to. I even enjoyed a few other titles in the New 52 but they have either slipped into mediocrity (Bird of Prey) or were canceled (Black Hawks). If WW gets bad I will likely not be reading a single title off the DC line.

The act of putting Supes and WW together was annoying and stupid but it wasn't a slap in the face for me. It was just a sales booster stunt for all the comic fans that LURV to buy "first time" events (hence the boost in DC sales). This article though... is just insulting to my intelligence as a reader and a slap to my face as a fan. A complete dismissal of a 75 year relationship that has been part of Superman's lore since his creation.

One More Day was equally bad. But Lois and Clark don't even get a ceremonial send-off like MJ and Peter did. And let's face it... OMD isn't even the worst Spidey storyline to come out in the last 10 years. Let us not forget the illegitimate children of Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborne. Dare I say "The Other" is probably worse as well because at least OMD had a point to it (stupid point as it was).
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Suicide wrote:
there's still... the Azzarello/Chiang Wonder Woman series
One More Day was equally bad. But Lois and Clark don't even get a ceremonial send-off like MJ and Peter did.

Lois and Clark didn't get a send off because the whole continuity was rebooted, not just one aspect of the Superman comics. People who are upset about breaking up Lois and Clark need to realize they weren't in a committed relationship for the vast amount of Superman's history (which unlike Spider-man's contains multiple reboots and different versions of the character). I want Superman to be with Lois to, but it took years after the Crises in 86 for them to even be dating let alone engaged. I am interested in the story possibilities with Supes/WW. I don't see this being permanent, but it's a phase in this new Superman's journey I have no problem with(I'm actually more interested in seeing Diana and Steve back together since they were broken up by Perez in the 80s than in Lois and Clark reuniting right out of the gate, but with the version of Trevor they brought back I am not so sure).
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Yeah I've seen these types of posts before. That little comment for Supes and WW of - "How could these two NOT be number one?" is probably the thing that got under your skin, I hate it too. Its the kind of forcing it into your head to make you accept it without you knowing kinda comment.

There was an article in a British paper listing top shows for your kids to watch, WWE was given a 1 out of 10. Then after that they placed Dragonball Z as a 0 out of 10 (DBZ had only just started broadcasting over here at this point) The whole thing came off as a one person attack on a show just because they didn't like it and trying to make everyone hate it, it was so pathetic.
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Lois and Clark didn't get a send off because the whole continuity was rebooted, not just one aspect of the Superman comics. People who are upset about breaking up Lois and Clark need to realize they weren't in a committed relationship for the vast amount of Superman's history (which unlike Spider-man's contains multiple reboots and different versions of the character). I want Superman to be with Lois to, but it took years after the Crises in 86 for them to even be dating let alone engaged. I am interested in the story possibilities with Supes/WW. I don't see this being permanent, but it's a phase in this new Superman's journey I have no problem with(I'm actually more interested in seeing Diana and Steve back together since they were broken up by Perez in the 80s than in Lois and Clark reuniting right out of the gate, but with the version of Trevor they brought back I am not so sure).
I do realize that but I'm sick of that being used as a defense. As if that disqualifies the fact that Lois Lane and Superman are synonymous as a couple in the majority of Superman's lore. Every cartoon, every TV show, every adaptation has recognized them as the lasting couple/love interest almost since the beginning of Superman's existence.

Again I am simply annoyed by the coupling. It feels like fanboy shipping at its worst and a stunt. BUT this article is grossly more insulting and sophomoric because its very basis tries to deny the existence/importance of a 75 year relationship displayed over every single form of media, all to hype their current editorial team's "awesome idea!"
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I find the most fault with Green Lantern and Star Sapphire. That's been played with a few times and never worked out before. But I have to love number ten.

Suicide is right, how this feels like fanboy shipping. Considering who writes superhero comics now, that's basically what it is, isn't it?
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I don't give a damn what DC does anymore. Ever since they labelled Stephanie Brown as Toxic, the entire executive staff can go to hell.
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Suicide wrote:
Again I am simply annoyed by the coupling. It feels like fanboy shipping at its worst and a stunt. BUT this article is grossly more insulting and sophomoric because its very basis tries to deny the existence/importance of a 75 year relationship displayed over every single form of media, all to hype their current editorial team's "awesome idea!"

we'll have to just agree to disagree! ;)

Now I just read that Tim Drake was never Robin in the 52...what the fuck!!!!!!??????
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erikson wrote:
Suicide wrote:
Again I am simply annoyed by the coupling. It feels like fanboy shipping at its worst and a stunt. BUT this article is grossly more insulting and sophomoric because its very basis tries to deny the existence/importance of a 75 year relationship displayed over every single form of media, all to hype their current editorial team's "awesome idea!"

we'll have to just agree to disagree! ;)

Now I just read that Tim Drake was never Robin in the 52...what the fuck!!!!!!??????
That's old news, I think the writer changed his mind about that detail, because, they said in Teen Titans #1 that (which the same guy wrote, mind you) he WAS Robin; he's even got a picture for proof too!
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rider28031 wrote: That's old news, I think the writer changed his mind about that detail, because, they said in Teen Titans #1 that (which the same guy wrote, mind you) he WAS Robin; he's even got a picture for proof too!
I know it was, but it was new to me. If he changed his mind on that then good on Lobdell.
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erikson wrote:
rider28031 wrote: That's old news, I think the writer changed his mind about that detail, because, they said in Teen Titans #1 that (which the same guy wrote, mind you) he WAS Robin; he's even got a picture for proof too!
I know it was, but it was new to me. If he changed his mind on that then good on Lobdell.
Smart man, Lobdell, I would actually go crazy if they actually went with that; then again, nothing really surprises me anymore.
Let us not forget the illegitimate children of Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborne.
WHAT!?!
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Let us not forget the illegitimate children of Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborne.

WHAT!?!
Oh yeah. This shit happened:
http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content ... n-Gwen.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_and_Sarah_Stacy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And it's still in continuity even after One More Day.
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Suicide wrote:
Let us not forget the illegitimate children of Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborne.

WHAT!?!
Oh yeah. This shit happened:
http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content ... n-Gwen.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_and_Sarah_Stacy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And it's still in continuity even after One More Day.
I repeat: WHAT!?!

This is the most asinine piece of writing I think I've ever seen. Why? Why would Marvel do this? This means Osborn killed Gwen just to get those kids now, doesn't it? You don't need to complicate something so damn simple!

Goblin abducts and throws Gwen off a bridge to get at Spider-Man, that's it! Who wrote this? J. Michael Straczynski? Fuck you, JMS and fuck Marvel for actually letting him write it! Suicide, you're right, forget One More Day, at least it lets Mary Jane and Peter date; THIS is the Spidey story that screwed everyone over! I'm swearing off Spider-Man cause I can't take the mistreatment of him anymore.

God help him in whatever Dan Slott's planned for #700.

Edit:
Well, I'll take back some of what I said about JMS considering he did try to get rid of this detail:
In an e-mail to popular comic book website Newsarama, Straczynski claimed he regretted the version of Sins Past that went to press, and he had hoped to "retcon" it out of continuity during the events of the recent One More Day storyline: "I wanted to retcon the Gwen twins out of continuity, which was something I always assumed I could do at the end of my run. I wasn't allowed to do this, and yes, it pissed me off."

Still, doesn't excuse the fact he wrote it in the first place and One More Day though...
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