I feel like I want to cry.

[Neo Juste Belmont]

I usually get pictures by commissions.

There are some missteps that I made that pissed off the commission offerer and then they take back their commissions. But at least they were decent enough to tell just how much I screwed up and I could use it as a future guideline of etiquette next time I make commissions.

And there's this guy. I shall not name him. But...

He gave me a sample of commission. He asks if I want fixes. I gave about seven. And since I haven't paid for it, I asked when do I pay. Then all of the sudden his reply is "I'm not doing this anymore, no need to pay, find someone else."...

That's it!?

What did I do wrong!? What's so hard about telling me what's wrong and not just leaving me wondering what's wrong and leaving me in confusion about what did I do wrong? What if next time I accidentally got the same mistake and drove another commission guy away!? I don't mind not getting the picture, but I DO mind not getting the advice where did I go wrong!

He probably just hadn't answered, but I had a gut feeling that he just deems my messages not worth answering. But anyway, thanks for listening and just let me get back to the corner. I'm not sure if I'll make commissions again...

*curls in the corner*

[erikson]

I usually get pictures by commissions.

There are some missteps that I made that pissed off the commission offerer and then they take back their commissions. But at least they were decent enough to tell just how much I screwed up and I could use it as a future guideline of etiquette next time I make commissions.

And there's this guy. I shall not name him. But...

He gave me a sample of commission. He asks if I want fixes. I gave about seven. And since I haven't paid for it, I asked when do I pay. Then all of the sudden his reply is "I'm not doing this anymore, no need to pay, find someone else."...

That's it!?

What did I do wrong!? What's so hard about telling me what's wrong and not just leaving me wondering what's wrong and leaving me in confusion about what did I do wrong? What if next time I accidentally got the same mistake and drove another commission guy away!? I don't mind not getting the picture, but I DO mind not getting the advice where did I go wrong!

He probably just hadn't answered, but I had a gut feeling that he just deems my messages not worth answering. But anyway, thanks for listening and just let me get back to the corner. I'm not sure if I'll make commissions again...

*curls in the corner*

Did you ask him why? Did he quit taking commissions or just yours?

[Neo Juste Belmont]

He wasn't quitting in taking commissions, he just probably thought I'm being a jackass not worth doing my commission over. I asked why, and he hadn't answered, but then again, look at the last paragraph.

I know I've been an unethic ass to some commissioners we know (like Anime Captor) that they just cancelled my commissions, but they're graceful enough to tell me where did I go wrong. This? Urrgh...

[Neo Juste Belmont]

EDIT: I think I've felt a little better and was overall just overacting. If the mods are here, this topic can now be deleted.

Sorry for the ruckus.

[Suicide]

Sounds to me like you need to ease up on your specifications. I know you're paying money and everything but if you give too many modifications or specified too many small things or even asked for modifications outside the artists talent level (something that's happened to me from time to time, one person asking why I couldn't draw something more realistic like LoZ. LMAO! Cuz I'm not LoZ...) then you'll likely just drive people away which seems to be the case in practice.

If this happens a lot and is still happening it doesn't seem like you've learned much from what the other people have told you. In fact here and now you don't seem to think you did anything wrong by maybe being over detailed.

[Gambit]

Much like Suicide, I'm going to leave this topic open since it's not just you but several others that fall into the same pitfalls of over editing in the commission department. I admit I found it difficult dealing with you and that's why the last time after several fixes (much of it done AFTER the pic was inked) and you asked for another commission I said no. Normally with the penciled proofs that get sent out, that's the stage where I expect corrections. Inked is more work. I don't know how many people out there use their computers for commissions but I draw things by hand and ink by hand. You're not a bad person but again, I do admit it's difficult at times and when it was over I was like, phew glad that's done. "So can you do another one for me?" First thought is, just run. Run away. You are right though in needing to know what you did wrong so you can learn from it. This, again, is so that not only you learn what you did wrong but so that others too can learn.

P.S. you're not the worst one out there. I've had much worse and only canceled on one person mid pencils. I at least finished yours.

[Girltaker]

As I've told you before a couple days ago, not all artists are going to have the nerves to deal with a picky customer. I have yet to start taking commissions myself, but I can understand one getting irritated when the person in question keeps coming back and asking them to do this or do that, and make fix after fix until it's perfect to them. Patience can only go so far even when money's involved.

Sometimes it's best to be more open about what you're getting and accept it. Don't worry so much on the details and pick at it, just relax and let the artist do the best they possibly can for you.

[Karyu]

I'm generally cool about it, as long as I get good refernce pics and even pose pics at times (sometimes people's descriptions are kinda vague) then its fine. Just stay polite and you'll be fine with me =)

[erikson]

I also had to cancel a commission and return the money because the commissioner was too picky. I can deal with a commissioner knowing what they want and expecting you to deliver, but if they expect you to read their mind and redraw the pic over and over until it looks "exactly" like the image in their heads-no. Asking for a detail here and there to be fixed is one thing, but asking for a red-draw because the leg needs to be bent a half inch more, or the waist turned a half inch to the left, that is a problem. As long as I deliver what was asked for in the description I expect that to be enough, I'm not a mind reader, and if the person wants the pic to be scanned from his brain to the page, I can only advise art lessons.

That being said, I've never had any problem with you myself.

[j-c]

I also had to cancel a commission and return the money because the commissioner was too picky.

Erikson, I can't IMAGINE somebody being too picky with you...it always looks great to me!

- JC

[Mr. Darkly]

Sooooo, does this mean Geekling will no longer do commissions for you?